No harm.
There is some truth in sterotypes. But they usually don't apply to everyone targeted at all times. That's all.
For my whole career at UCD, I never told anyone when my birthday was. I didn't want to draw attention to the fact that I was quite a bit older than most of the other programmers at my point in my career. So being the subject of the monthly birthday celebration was kinda out of the question. I started programming for pay when I was about 45. I'm being compared to someone who started at 22 and is 45. I had to find a niche. And I did. For about 15 years.
Age discrimination is a fact of life. Partly justified by the fact that the sytem trys to pay us more or we expect more pay than someone younger. I was luckly in that when I left Silicon Valley, at around 40, my plan was to make minimum wage until I retired. I'd just do something, hopefully that I enjoyed, and I'd be OK. I got lucky in that I did better than minimum wage, found an interesting career path doing things that I still enjoy in retirement. I got unlucky in that my situation at work turned sour. The silver lining was that I could retire early because I had earned more than minimum wage.
I'm not saying that this is a shining example of a career path that other people should follow. But I am saying that I looked at what I was doing and what I wanted. That causes two things:to look at what you are doing, and more importantly, to look at what you want.
Then, you have to be real, and realistic, and come up with a plan.
When I was young, in my first career, I bet on the fact that we would make chips in the US. I mean, it was obvious to me that we had too. And, turns out, I was right about that. But that didn't stop all the jobs from going away. All of them. I had to do something. Right. OK, so I was right and now they want chip fab back. It's bittersweet for me. I wish them luck. But it made me face reality real hard, instead of the fantasy world of what "should be".
That's my experience. Your mileage may vary. Good luck and Godspeed.
I'm still open to suggestions on what I want to be when I grow up.
And, I've been getting some specs together and starting to move on the boat. I'm thinking that the 1980 diesel can probably be fixed. But, it turns out, I can replace it with electric for less. And it will be quieter and all that. It's a sailboat, right. I asked Gemini, seriously, I did, if I was crazy to fix up a boat that old. It told me to go for it. Almost literally. I was leaning that way anyhow.
BTW, I originally bought the boat to get away from room mates when I was working in the valley. I'd been exposed to sailing when I was young, so it was an easy fit.
Thanks for the encouragement :)
O a asle On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 02:04:00PM -0700, Kevin Brisson wrote:
Hello Gary-
I meant no harm in my comment. It was all sarcasm. You actually retired at the right time and it's better to stay busy when retired. If you don't use it you will lose it. I have mixed emotions about getting old. I was let go because of my age recently after 24 years on the job, and it has me thinking about what I want to do for the remainder of my life. I can either be a cynic or try to make the best of it. It depends on how I feel I guess. I'm 54 and trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up. BTW fix your damn boat so Brian can fly us to your boat and then we can go cruise the bay. :)
Keivn
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 9:42 AM Gary saclug@garymcglinn.com wrote:
That put a smile on my face. Now where are my glasses LOL?
This is the 21st Century. They told me everything would be easy and I'd have a flying car.
I'm disappointed :)
I'll give your suggestion a try.
I'm trying to simplify my life. It's hard to do when they keep making you spend time 'cause they redo things that already work just fine. Just sayin'.
I wish someone would say something nice about the 22nd Century. I mean, something beside we'll all be underwater and the seas will be boiling. Like maybe that I'll have a flying car and everything will be easy!
It's nice to have something to look forward to.
On a more serious note, I've been wondering if there is some SOAP effect here. The actual framework/protocol is easy, but the tools make it hard. It seemed really messed up that things want multiuser target and there is no target after that. So, that if you need to run after something that wants multiuser, you have to do an after. I was looking into trying to define a target after everything runs and then just have my unit want or requre that.
I'm still learning this stuff. Old retired people can't learn either. Better to just put them on the porch. Your solution sounds easier, but with some subtleties. Retired people are always talking abut the past and how good it was. Makes people feel like they are hearing old Soviet propaganda. Oh, that's right, you have no idea what that is like LOL.
This is the best of all possible worlds---Dr. Pangloss. --My sides hurt.
It's difficult being old and sick and stupid and a drag on society. What was I before? Oh yea, I saved more money than I earned. Wait, that kinda sounds like a drag on things. Keynes thought so. Oh that's right, I almost forgot (old people are always forgetting things) he's wrong. We still use his ideas (I can tell because I remember...), we just call them different things. I'm confused. But now, I spend more money than I earn. I must have things backward.
Apparently having someone serve you food in a restaurant is good for the economy. But having someone serve you food in a "retirement community" is a drag on society because that person could be serving someone food in a restaurant.
I'm so confused. Must be because I'm old and retired.
It's hard being old and stupid and not doing what I'm told.
I have a nice seat on my front porch. Maybe it will be sunny later.
--Just having some fun with my morning coffee :)
n Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 07:34:18PM -0000, Kevin B wrote:
Gary, computers are hard and shouldn't be used by retired folks. :) Run
it like below, it will load last. Use AI for docs - much easier and faster than our brains.
Type=idle
Behavior of idle is very similar to simple; however, actual execution of
the service program is delayed until all active jobs are dispatched. This may be used to avoid interleaving the output of shell services with the status output on the console. Note that this type is useful only to improve console output, it is not useful as a general unit ordering tool, and the effect of this service type is subject to a 5s timeout, after which the service program is invoked anyway.
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd.service.html
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