I can believe it. What I've seen, is management doesn't consider that the jobs, the computer jobs, the reports and output, run by themselves. They see the output and they see the employee and they just figure that the employee has to do something to make the jobs run. Which is a slightly different take on the article. They just get it in their heads that it is that way and never really ask too many questions and everybody is happy. This can go on for years or decades. They also have a hidden fear that if the employee leaves, the jobs may stop and no one will be able to "fix" it. They certainly can't. It's perhaps the only job in their perview that they can't do. It's just magic and they don't want to break the spell. I myself experienced this. I had a repetitive data translation task to move data between two systems. So I wrote a script to do it. I had expressly asked for permission to do this, but was denied. I did it anyway, lets say, on my own time. I used the breathing room to do other things, since I was busy and enjoyed my work and improving my skills. It's a big reason why there was, as continues to be, push back from managment about working from home. Many managers have no way to judge output. But they can judge input. In software, the unit of measure may be keystrokes, but it almost always can be seat time. Over my career, good managers are rare. They can judge output and can delegate effectively. Part of my later difficulty was that I had a lot of these managers, the good ones, early in my career. When I had the bad ones, later on, I didn't understand them and they didn't understand me. Whose gonna win that battle LOL. I don't see AI being able to help with this. On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 11:58:51AM -0800, Brian E. Lavender wrote: