On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 11:01:33AM -0700, Brian E. Lavender wrote: I searched Google for "Abalone fools day meaning" and all it returned was "April fools" references. The whole concept of AI has destroyed search in my personal opinion. "Abalone fools day" reference is a reference to the fact that Abalone season opened on April 1 and divers would travel the long distance from Sacramento to the ocean only to fatigue themselves and often drown. I was a former abalone diver. Brian -- Brian Lavender https://www.brie.com/brian/ "There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies." Professor C. A. R. Hoare The 1980 Turing award lecture

I think RPM wins too and is a primary reason I have been sticking with Fedora. Also, I fell for the "instant boot" April Fools joke when it first came out, back in the day. And, by coincidence, I'm playing around with Hibernation and Sessions right now :) I had some hope for alien, since there is some stuff that you can only get in .deb or .dpkg, but never did and it seems a backwater. On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 09:46:23PM -0700, Gary wrote:

----"How standards proliferate! https://xkcd.com/927/" That's why I was pulling for alien. Instead of being a new starndard, it tried to use, or interconvert, the existing standards (back when their were fewer). ----"I am not familiar with sessions." A session is what you have when you are logged in. I think that the session tools are part of the desktop, so will vary by desktop. I'm using Xfce. It allows me to save my session and then tell it to restart my session when I log back in. When you log out, your session ends. That's how setsid works: it puts the job in another session so it's not killed when you log out. On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 09:27:17AM -0700, Brian E. Lavender wrote: