25 Nov
2025
25 Nov
'25
5:23 p.m.
It's always permissions. B-)
On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 3:27 PM Gary <saclug(a)garymcglinn.com> wrote:
So, I've put some more time into this. After
learning a lot, I got my ssh
-g -R port to connect using the systemd user unit. But, when I try to use
the port, the connection is made, but hangs before the password prompt. I
see lots of examples that look just like what I am doing that apparently
work fine LOL.
I was just at the system I want to connect to, after my most recent
changes, and ssh to my remote system and could connect back using -p xxx
localhost. So the tunnel worked, at least once.
Now, I'm at the remote system. I try ssh -pxxx localhost, and it just
hangs after the client sends the banner. I think this is same as before.
So, when I run my ExecStart command from the command line, it works. But
when running it inside a systemd unit, I have this issue.
It can't be firewall. It can't be network or DNS vs. straight IP. It
can't be almost anything except systemd. But there is nothing in the logs.
I'm thinking the next step is wiresharking everything. But that sounds
painful.
Having written cron jobs in the past, I'm sort of used to this kind of
mystery. Same with rc.local stuff, sort of. So it isn't the ultimate
condemnation. But, like, it should work LOL.
Any thoughts?
On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 10:58:40PM -0800, Gary wrote:
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a complex thing to make things simple.
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I've felt that sisvinit is really all you
need for a laptop or desktop,
or possibly even a stand alone server.
But, after looking around, I took the path of least resistance and began
using
distros that use systemd.
Systemd has a lot of issues. It's monolithic. They went and built
something
that is very flexible, and then used it a way that hardly
utilizes it. It is way more than someone with a laptop, desktop, or server
really needs. It solves a problem that is really only a problem for
someone who has lots of systems to maintain each of which may have
different configurations. Unfortunately, they didn't make this as easy as
it should be; see not using flexibility previouly mentioned.
It does get around some of the awkwardness of rc.local, for example. If
only I
could get it to work. That was an issue with rc.local too,as I
recall.
I'm thinking that if I get some time, I'll play around with it.
On Sat, Nov 08, 2025 at 07:09:03AM -0800, Charles Polisher wrote:
> On 11/7/25 12:45, Brian E. Lavender wrote:
> > Install Fedora 43 from a clean install and systemd should work fine.
Is
Slackware still on non systemd?
Brian
Slackware is still running on sysvinit. Years of
experience with Slackware, Fedora, Ubuntu, CentOS,
Red Hat, FreeBSD, ... haven't has a problem with
sysvinit, have spent dozens of hours "supporting"
systemd. I haven't experienced any tangible benefit,
but from previous posts, and private conversations
on this topic, you do. Could it be because you're
a laptop user? I believe that laptops would be
ideal for me, except that the keyboards are always
a non-starter. I haven't ever tried a laptop
keyboard that didn't make my fingers feel retarded.
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Chuck Polisher
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