So, I've put some more time into this.  After learning a lot, I got my ssh -g -R  port to connect using the systemd user unit.  But, when I try to use the port, the connection is made, but hangs before the password prompt.  I see lots of examples that look just like what I am doing that apparently work fine LOL.

I was just at the system I want to connect to, after my most recent changes, and ssh to my remote system and could connect back using -p xxx localhost.  So the tunnel worked, at least once.

Now, I'm at the remote system.  I try ssh -pxxx localhost, and it just hangs after the client sends the banner. I think this is same as before.

So, when I run my ExecStart command from the command line, it works.  But when running it inside a systemd unit, I have this issue.

It can't be firewall.  It can't be network or DNS vs. straight IP.  It can't be almost anything except systemd.  But there is nothing in the logs.

I'm thinking the next step is wiresharking everything.  But that sounds painful.

Having written cron jobs in the past, I'm sort of used to this kind of mystery.  Same with rc.local stuff, sort of.  So it isn't the ultimate condemnation.  But, like, it should work LOL.

Any thoughts?

On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 10:58:40PM -0800, Gary wrote:
> I've felt that sisvinit is really all you need for a laptop or desktop, or possibly even a stand alone server.
>
> But, after looking around, I took the path of least resistance and began using distros that use systemd.
>
> Systemd has a lot of issues.  It's monolithic.  They went and built something that is very flexible, and then used it a way that hardly utilizes it.  It is way more than someone with a laptop, desktop, or server really needs.  It solves a problem that is really only a problem for someone who has lots of systems to maintain each of which may have different configurations.  Unfortunately, they didn't make this as easy as it should be; see not using flexibility previouly mentioned.
>
> It does get around some of the awkwardness of rc.local, for example.  If only I could get it to work.  That was an issue with rc.local too,as I recall.
>
> I'm thinking that if I get some time, I'll play around with it.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2025 at 07:09:03AM -0800, Charles Polisher wrote:
> > On 11/7/25 12:45, Brian E. Lavender wrote:
> > > Install Fedora 43 from a clean install and systemd should work fine. Is
> > > Slackware still on non systemd?
> > >
> > > Brian
> > Slackware is still running on sysvinit. Years of
> > experience with Slackware, Fedora, Ubuntu, CentOS,
> > Red Hat, FreeBSD, ... haven't has a problem with
> > sysvinit, have spent dozens of hours "supporting"
> > systemd. I haven't experienced any tangible benefit,
> > but from previous posts, and private conversations
> > on this topic, you do. Could it be because you're
> > a laptop user? I believe that laptops would be
> > ideal for me, except that the keyboards are always
> > a non-starter. I haven't ever tried a laptop
> > keyboard that didn't make my fingers feel retarded.
> >
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> a complex thing to make things simple.
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