I hadn't realized .Net was still a thing. Granted, I live under a rock. I did some poking around and learned a lot, actually. I try to be open minded and like to revisit my past choices and decisions to kind of revalidate them every now and then. This time of year, especially. I've sort of realized that programing is a human activity, a craft, as opposed to a science. In other words, it isn't trying to converge on some concept of an ultimate truth. It's just trying to get things done in the context of other human activity. For what it is worth, I only use the Linux desktop, but, again, I live under a rock. Thanks, I have lots of leads to follow, but I can't spend my day today on that, unfortunately. As far as what's next, I still feel that there is a lot of "churn", but I've come to accept it more as an aspect of what programing is. In some ways it's good, because all things tend to become more complex with time and they eventually reach a critical point where it is easier to start something new. It's very Darwinian. What I hope is next is that things like IoT die. There are better solutions IMHO, that are much less intrusive. There is a lot of institutional energy behind it, partially because it is very profitable. But I suspect things will continue on that path. Perhaps the other side of that coin is all the crap they are dumping into my browser "cache", that I don't really want. So I see that line between what is "my" information, and what is "their" information becoming less distinct. This is also reflected in the trend to use apps on the phone, as opposed to web pages. I remember when browser "sandboxes" were a big deal. And I deleted the rest of this long post because I went out of scope and off topic. But at the risk of doing that again, I hope everyone is enjoying the holidays :) -Gary On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 06:36:15PM -0800, Brian E. Lavender wrote: