I created a mailman server with the list. Only thing is that you email lug-nuts(a)bigbrie.com . I jumped the gun before getting it configured with saclug.org. I added the membership list from the previous list. Brian -- Brian Lavender http://www.brie.com/brian/ "There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies." Professor C. A. R. Hoare The 1980 Turing award lecture