I am at Kupros upstairs. I have a little tent sign with SacLUG. I have a feeling that this might be a slow night! Anybody coming to the social tonight? Brian -- Brian Lavender https://www.brie.com/brian/ "There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies." Professor C. A. R. Hoare The 1980 Turing award lecture